THE BLACK PARADIGM
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THE BLACK PARADIGM
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Well, hello, hello, hello, hello, niggas. Welcome back. It's your boy TJ, aka TJ with the sauce.
SPEAKER_05Hey y'all, it's your girl Ashley, aka Ashley Great.
SPEAKER_01And niggas, we are back. We are, listen. I we at the Black Paradigm hope that you had a beautiful, beautiful Juneteenth weekend and also a Father's Day. You know what I'm saying? For all the fathers out there. Um, because you know they like to other races and other people. Um, they want to, you know, they like to say that all black fathers, do you have your father in your life? Statistically, that's a lie. Black fathers are in their children's lives actually more than a lot of you people, but uh, we back to different yeah, because my dad's in my life, and your dad's in my life. Yeah. Well, that was a tactic that they used a long time ago, because you know.
SPEAKER_05Um by Todd.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the government. The government, you know, they they they broke apart black families, been doing it for hundreds and hundreds of years. But yeah, we won't get on there.
SPEAKER_05I agree to a certain extent. Because now these niggas won't live on that. All right, like, come on now. Now you need to change the biggest.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, no, I'm not talking about I'm not talking about today's in in in today's. I'm talking about, you know, history, you know, and I'm just letting you know that there are plenty of black fathers out here raising their kids. Whether they are single, whether they are in a relationship, they are, they want the best for their kids. And not every black man is a deadbeat.
SPEAKER_05But no, not every black man is. Because some of you hotep the gospel cues, the the hotep cues, you niggas, child.
SPEAKER_01But some of you niggas, again, y'all need therapy. Y'all need to get y'all shit together, and y'all need to raise y'all kids. If you, my thing is this. And this is what I'm about to I'm about to get into it. My thing is this. If you are having unprotected sex, me and you both know, Ashley, if you are having unprotected sex, what can happen? One, you can get a disease, STD. Two, you can get pregnant.
SPEAKER_05Well, I mean, you're talking to a subsector of people, or when it comes to that logic in that point, I feel like half of these motherfuckers out here, and I'm not just talking about black people, I'm talking about the general public can't read. A lot of these niggas don't know anatomy. They don't even know what pre-com is. And a lot of niggas don't know female anatomy. And a lot of niggas don't know, like it only takes that. Huh?
SPEAKER_01It doesn't take that much to create a baby.
SPEAKER_05It don't take that much to create a baby. Like, first of all, a lot of niggas don't even wipe it between their ass cheeks. They don't, they don't even realize that their woman is not coming. They don't realize a lot of straight women in general do not come or not fully pleased from sex. And a lot of you niggas really don't know how to eat cat the right way. So it's just like, why explain these things? You like you know these things. Yeah. So it's just like, I hate when motherfuckers just be acting shocked. And that and that goes for women too. Like, we have got to stop. Very fair.
SPEAKER_01Because I don't I don't get I don't get shocked. Listen, let me tell you something. You are not gonna get any type of sympathy from me when you sit here and say, start crying, talking about you're pregnant, or you, or for nigga coming to me talking about I'm about to have a I'm about to have a baby.
SPEAKER_05Here's the thing. For me, it depends on the age of who's doing the the crying and complaining. And it sometimes should do like I know people that are very the the first time I'll give you one time that it's an accident. But you come to me on your sixth abortion, your fifth accident, sister.
SPEAKER_01We gotta talk. We need to get you a little gotta talk just a little bit. No, no, no. We gotta get you, we we gotta get you a therapy. We really, we I wish talking about therapy was as normal as, hey, what you gonna what you finna eat? Because at the end of the day, something is is going on with you that you feel that you have to, and I'm talking about men and women. I'm not talking about just women because this men and women, this is the this is the what men, this is the gender, you know, male and female. Gender neutral. Yes, yes, gender neutral. We have to start saying, hey, you need to talk to someone. Because this is not this is not okay. If uh I I had a friend a long time ago, and he would always say, Oh yeah, I fucked that bitch, I fucked this bitch up. I'm like, hey, hey, I I don't, we, we don't care. Like we would be in fucking group settings, you know, oh fucked up, hey nigga, we don't care. Then all of a sudden he stopped talking about that for a good couple of months. I said, What's going on? You ain't messing with nobody, or da da da. He was like, Oh well, I think I got these two girls pregnant. Oh. So now reality is hitting you now.
SPEAKER_02See, and that's really what it's like, I think.
SPEAKER_01He's a good father. Now, it it at the beginning, it I think he was sh he was scared and everything like that, but he's a good father. He has proved to be a good father. No, no, no, no. I'm not no, all of that, what you just said was correct. No, I don't know.
SPEAKER_05I be like, okay, so what are we eating for lunch today? Because I don't hear that shit. I don't give a fuck. Y'all know what it takes to make a baby. Like, yeah. I just, I just, I don't when it comes to black people and that, both genders, my and there's some people in my family that do not talk to me because I'm just like, you'll donate for you knew Christmas was coming the same day every fucking year. That is the most consequential. I'm not donating shit. You got 50-11 kids. Figure it the fuck out. Now, if you're trying, and this, you know, shit happens, I'm good at the donates for my butt it's just like when it comes to that aspect in our community, kids do not equate love. Kids ain't gonna make a nigga stay with you. Kids are not carrying on my legacy. When you niggas don't got two pennies uh uh to rub together, ain't got a pot the piss in the windows or throw it out. Nigga, you're carrying on your fucking lineage. Who gives a fucking?
SPEAKER_01And your trauma and your trauma.
SPEAKER_05A lot of you niggas, I ain't even gonna go on that soapbox, but when it comes to that and kids and conversation, especially when you know you have people uh praising baby mama, baby daddy culture, like a lot of you bitches are famous out here because you had a baby by a rich nigga. Okay, who gives a fuck? Next. You literally got this guy. Um, I saw his video. His mama dated Ludacris, T.I. He was just going on this rant about all these men that his mama dated. Like all these rappers and and and athletes that his mama dated. And we were trying to figure out who, because it wasn't it, we try to figure out who his mama was. He was just saying how she was a video fixing how like me and my three siblings at home hungry, but you on a private jet with the next nigga. So it's just like this.
SPEAKER_01You know what? And that's some that that's some foul shit like that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Like the kids are affected. So it's just like I hate that part of black culture. Yeah, and they will always remember that shit.
SPEAKER_01They will always remember that shit. When they get older, they will always remember seeing you, some nigga or somebody come to pick you up in a fucking limo or a fucking, you know, Uber XL, and you going on flights and beaches and all of this bullshit. Like, your kids remember that. Like, that's why.
SPEAKER_05But yeah, when it comes like baby mama, baby daddy culture in our community, I just be like, I'd be so.
SPEAKER_01You gotta change some net, yeah. And then you can do.
SPEAKER_05And it's not and it's and I'm and I'm not an elitist, I'm not one of those political correct ass bitches. I'm just a realist. Like, I just feel like, and and again, and I'm not one of the ones, oh, you gotta be married to have kids. Because not everybody subscribes to the idea of marriage, but it's just like, it's just crazy to me how I just don't, the simplicity of a fucking condom and or like the the element of being surprised. Well, you was fucking a nigga raw six days a week. So what are we doing? Like, I don't want to hear it. I don't give a fuck. People be calling me is it's people that literally don't like me because we've had, you know how you be in like group settings and you just I'm the person you know if I don't fuck with what you talking about, if y'all get dead silent and I'm just looking, or I start texting on my phone. But I'm just like, this motherfucker is stupid. Like people, like my close friends know, like, you know how sometimes we'll be in a situation where all y'all just out in an event or y'all out dancing and they bring a friend of a friend or a friend, so or you come across that one cousin or what and we all just or even at work, it's a certain somebody at my job where I just be like, when she be talking about, you know, her husband and her kids, and all, I just be like this. I say it'd be crickets with me.
SPEAKER_01Because it'd be it it it you are listen.
SPEAKER_05I don't have time for the fuck shit.
SPEAKER_01A lot of my family, listen, I tell you this, uh I ain't gonna say a lot, but some of my family family members do not like me because I'm not gonna sit there and listen to you again, just like you you said, I'm not gonna sit there and listen to your bullshit. I'm a person, okay, what's next? Because we've been talking about this shit for the last that the four or five times we met up, you keep talking about the same situation. What are we doing? Like what what how what what are you going to do to change your life? Because it's done. Whatever you are telling me and you're telling the whole fucking group, it's already done. So what are we gonna do to change it? What are we gonna do to progress this so you can feel better? So whoever, I mean, it's just when you stay stuck, when you stay stuck on the same thing, now I'll give you, you know, I'll give you a week, maybe, maybe a couple, depending on the severity of the situation, right?
SPEAKER_05Right. And it's yeah, and it's nuanced. Just, you know, like if it's, you know, a friend lost a friend or a death, like, okay, girl, I get it. I'ma listen, I'm gonna be there for it. But it's just stupid shit. I spent my rent money to go to Street Wheel University, he didn't pick me, and I'm homeless. Okay, um, what ice cream place do you want to go to today? That was fucking stupid. Like, I've been seeing all of that shit. I just hate jump shit.
SPEAKER_01These people, and I seen the video, and I didn't think, I thought the video was fake.
SPEAKER_05This dude spent almost $3,000 to get to Atlanta and set that ride for fucking days and didn't even get a chance to see the nigga because the shit got shut down. You got grown ass, big ass Armand Wiggins sending his messy ass up there going streaming door talking about I got hot. Sir, please. And it's just like the amount of effort niggas put in there to do crazy shit, wearing diapers and pampers and carts, sleeping outside, not paying their rent, you could have put that in your own content. But a lot of it was another YouTuber that I saw, he made the best point. I'm gonna shout him out the next time because I use this video for reference. And I know we're scaling off, but it I just gotta say this.
SPEAKER_01Welcome to the black paradigm, niggas.
SPEAKER_05Period. But it's just like a lot of y'all people going to streaming university, y'all don't even post content on the regular. The last time you posted a video was two, you're going just to make shit, you, you make shit pop or just to get the viral moment. You ain't posted content in three years. You got two followers. So it's just like I did feel bad for like the young black people that were there that have like a hundred thousand followers and that normally post or just wanting to go. But it's just like, clout is, I hate clout.
SPEAKER_01It's a hell of a drug, just like Cardi B said. Clout is a hell of a fucking drug.
SPEAKER_05I really feel like I'm in my, okay, I'm in my 30s and everything's getting on my fucking nerves. Like I give young people grace, but you couldn't have told, maybe it's just me being responsible. Even when I was 22 and I had my own apartment in Evansville, Indiana, I would have never not paid my rent to go to some shit that's not even promised. Are you fucking crazy?
SPEAKER_01I think the mindset and I think the way that the culture is, you know, it is shifted from people reading a paragraph to people reading one sentence and thinking that's it. You know, that that's how, and actually, I don't even want to say a paragraph. It is shifted from people reading a whole page, right? From someone reading just one sentence in that page. That's where the culture has shifted. And not saying black culture, but I'm just saying the mindset of the younger individuals. It's like, but did you read the whole page? No, I just read I like I just skimmed it, sir. It says right here that your your money is non-refundable.
SPEAKER_05Like just like, you know, I have a okay. So what I do for work, I've told y'all, I help a certain subsector of the population. And I have a client, I used to have a client of mine who was 24 years old. Even though we were at the time I was 31. So we were seven years apart. The he was a Gen Z. The fucking vast difference. Hey, um my phone did, oh no, I was at his, I had to do a um a check, we'll just call it a check-in for disclosure purposes. Can you tell me the time my phone did? Nigga We are in your house, go look on the stove, online critical thinking skills out the window. Or like so how I'm a how I'm gonna pay my rent? Nigga, get a job. What do you mean? I pay half of your rent, your other half of the rent. It's five hundred dollars. You don't do shit all day. But here's the thing you spent your the stipend that you get a month on a big greasy ass dog that you really don't take care of and you want me, well, I just thought you could help me. Nigga, no. It's just a con or like you know, I was helping him trying to over like, okay, we're gonna write out your bills every month. Well, how do I know how much my bill's gonna be every month? I said, you know what? Don't even worry about it. I packed up my shit. I said, appointment is over, you need to go home. Because you done pissed me all the way. I said, how so I said, so let's just call him for the sake of story. Let's just call him Trail. I said, so Trail. How you been paying my bills? Well, this bill, I get a s a statement through my email. That is your bill. Okay. So I'm looking through who's I said, Trail. This bill like I said, why are you 600 over? Um, I ain't paid for like five months. I didn't know how to pay it. Well, did you set up an account on the portal? No. I called my boss, I say, get him off my caseload now. What's wrong? I said, get him off of my fucking caseload now.
SPEAKER_01But then, but then Ashley, they'll say, Oh, well, you, you, you know, you're not really taking the time with them. This is basic. This is basic comprehension and reading skills. And I just feel like, and even though I laughed, right, this is scary because this is one out of hundreds, hundreds of thousands of uh of the younger generation. Like, fuck it. I'm gonna say this. My my my brother, my nephew, okay, my nephew is Gen Z. He's 20. I'm thirty, I'm 30, I'm 35, he's 24, he'll be 25 this year. This is my second oldest nephew. Okay? My brother, which is his father, asked him to tell fucking time. He said, go in the kitchen and tell, because he said his phone was dead. I said, There's a charger, plug your phone up. I said it's not gonna come on automatically. I said, go in now. There's a clock in the kitchen. My brother said, What time is it? He said, What? My brother said, What time is it? Tell me the time. The clock is right there. He goes, Oh. It says six, and the other hand, hold on, it's a said, I said, it's 622.
SPEAKER_05They don't teach them analog time.
SPEAKER_01And I and I said, I said, you are you, I said, are you being like, are you being funny? I said, you are you joking? I said, he's like, no, I didn't. He's like, I didn't learn that in school.
SPEAKER_05They don't teach them cursive. They don't teach them analog time. And they also don't teach them money. Like, you remember when we I was in first grade, we had fake money. Like, I saw my brother how to sign documents. I had to teach some of my clients that are under the age of like 28, 29, how to, okay, your John Hancock. I I told somebody, I said, hey, I need your John Hancock on this. What? Or this, so I had a client who thought I was trying to be nasty with him. I said, I need your signature. He said, Okay, can I? He got a pencil. I said, No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_05This is a I said, this, you need a pen, a black or a blue pen and you need to sign your name. But I mean, it was a teacher that went viral on TikTok in the state of Florida. He was just saying, like, yeah, they told me not to teach punctuation because we gotta teach the test. So these kids don't even know the basics of the um English language. Because I said I was when I was also in sixth grade, I remember us doing sentence diagrams to understand grammatical structure.
SPEAKER_01Correct.
SPEAKER_05Like, I'm so pumped to see Matt Damon in the Odyssey because I read the Odyssey twice when I was in high school. I read it for Summeriness, I'm going into the ninth grade, and then I read it, I think my junior year in my in my AP Lick class.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Or my uh whatever class. But it's just like common sense is gone. So it is such a it's such, even like with Love Island, the big moment when Sincere says she is the epitome. I was like, I said epitome.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_01Wait a minute.
SPEAKER_02Wait a minute. I saw it.
SPEAKER_01No, I seen it. I seen the I seen it the other, yes, because they were talking about it. It was Twitter was going crazy, and I was like, I said, what are you talking about? I said, that says epitome.
SPEAKER_05Because it it rolled by me at first. It took me, I said, I know, I said, I rewind, I said, I said, a pit. I said, you know the fuck what? I said, this shit, it is crazy, scary, spooky, hilarious out here. Kendrick really meant.
SPEAKER_00Kendrick really meant what the fuck he said. I love this shit.
SPEAKER_05But even like, you know, it's crazy because when I look at, I have like a certain subsector of my caseload, they're like in their 70s or 80s. Some of them are starting to show signs of like maybe like dementia or Alzheimer's, or you could just tell when somebody's getting older and they slow down. But when it comes to them documents, reading, understanding, sharpest attack. Now, do I have to blow up my document to 400% of my computer so they can see it? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. But when it comes to understanding, like some of my young, it's so crazy to me how some of my younger clients don't understand like contracts or reading contracts. I said, So even with me, I said, y'all use AI for everything else. If you can't understand what you signed, why did you sign it? I said, go ahead and take that part of the sentence and put it in the chat GPT. I said, if you want to make, even though I don't like AI, you have to want to educate yourself somehow. Because I know for me, like when it came to signing rental agreements, job contracts, or acceptance letters, if I didn't know what some should mean, I let me look this up in my phone, go with you. There was a social experiment that we did in um, and I'm and I'm we're we're gonna move up. I'm sorry, I just gotta share this. I remember I was 20, I was 20, so it was my second year. This was before I went to go, I was 19, because I turned 20 when I was in London. My second year, I I was uh getting a psychology model, so I took an intro to psychology class. We said, okay, how many people are not gonna read the terms and conditions? We threw, it was like half of us were in um, we had to talk to faculty and staff, and the other half had to talk to students. I got put in the students, so it's like we sat on the outside, kind of like, you know, the the part of campus where everybody's walking by like the main square part of campus, right? We set up a table, we said, hey, sign our petition. People was just signing shit. We didn't tell them what it was for, nothing. You know what they signed? So H2O, so to ban dihydrogen monoxide, or yeah, dihydrogen monoxide, which is I think the full scientific name, if I can remember, for water. H2O. Because you need two hydrogen models, two hydrogen molecules, excuse me, one oxygen. People we had about 250 signatures because people just don't take time to reach. So that that's and that's not a younger person.
SPEAKER_01I mean we would have been I mean that's that that is a honestly if you want to think about it that is a American A society problem and we would be dead if that was the fate of the world we would be dead. No, I'm serious. If that was the fate of the world, we would be dead. And you know, I'm gonna say this, we're gonna just move it on. Um it is it is not funny. It is not funny that these younger kids, these younger Gen Z and younger millennials are um, because millennials, you know, we we we're stretched, right? It's a it's it's a different millennial, you know. Uh but Gen Z and the younger millennials, it's it's not funny. Because these are people that one day will be, you know, just like they said about us, we'll be running corporations that we'll be having our own businesses and everything like that. So it's it's the education system does not get and will never, I I I believe uh something really has to happen for the education system to get the funding that it needs. Because y'all don't pay y'all fucking teachers. Y'all sit up here talking about this and that and laughing and shit like that. These teachers don't even get paid shit. They get paid less than $50,000 a fucking year, and you expect the teachers to do your fucking parents' job. Y'all niggas need to stop fucking having kids if you're not gonna raise your fucking kids. If you're not gonna help them and teach them. It is even with my nephew not knowing how to do that clock. I said, hey, I said, we're gonna sit right here, we're gonna learn, we're gonna learn this shit. I said, because you ain't finna go out here acting like you because you people are gonna look at you like you fucking stupid. You don't know this shit. Like this is like this, this right here, this is not a a school thing. When he said, well, school did teach me that. Cool. You got an uncle that knows this, your your daddy that knows this, your mama that knows this. It's like what they teaching y'all at school. Nigga, why don't you teach if you know if they say they haven't learned this shit, okay. It's my my issue now because I'm sitting here, I'm fucking talking to you. I need to do something about it. I know you don't know how to do something. Guess what? Let me fucking teach you.
SPEAKER_05I've already been collecting learning materials to buy from my nephew so I can teach him stuff when you because he's he'll be two in July. Um the devil. This is his newest little picture. Oh, he's shirt says, Yes, I know I look at my daddy. That's my baby, but he learned. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he looked like that.
SPEAKER_05When the next time he comes back, I'm gonna start teaching him things because he picks up and he talks so well. I'ma just I'm gonna really just be like, okay, because he's, you know, with him being too, I'm gonna try at least 10 minutes in the morning and at night when he comes back, you know, and just be like, listen, he's gonna be spoiled.
SPEAKER_01He's going to be spoiled. I mean, like when he gets, like, it don't matter, like he's gonna get your mama, your daddy, your brother, like it he ain't gotta worry about a damn thing.
SPEAKER_05Never.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I was just cooking that baby. I hear me.
SPEAKER_01I love that. Um, but yes, guys, niggas, uh, women, beautiful black queens, welcome back to the black paradigm. Uh, I know we went on a whole, but this, you know, y'all know us by now. Y'all know us by now. Um, our email is the blackparadigm77 at gmail.com. Um, once again, for the niggas in the back, uh, our email is the blackparadigm77 at gmail.com. So let's just let's get into it. I mean, we've been into it, but let's just let's get to the list. We 25 minutes in, friend. Let's let's just get to it.
SPEAKER_05How are you feeling? How's your mental health?
SPEAKER_01Um, my mental health is good. I think I um I'm still healing. I'm not healed. Um, it is a process, it is going to be a long process. I have another another therapy session in another week uh with my black therapist. Uh I'm excited. Um just to discuss, because I feel like for me, I feel like therapy for me will be a lifelong um thing. Um, I love it. I love to experience talking to someone else that has been through certain situations or that can kind of rationalize, but also say, hey, have you ever thought about this? A different perspective on how to live your life, but also gives you the ability to say, hey, this is your choice, but at the same time, where is that choice going to lead you? Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Absolutely. Shout out to black therapists and all the black mental health across the board.
SPEAKER_01And we need more. We need more. There was a study done saying that, you know, it uh, and because of this systematic um system that we live in in the USA, it's been very hard and and has always been hard for black people to be therapists, licensed clinicians. And, you know, it's been so many setbacks, right? Um, but if you are out there, if you are black, right, black man, black woman, if you are out there wanting to be a psychologist, wanting to be a therapist, wanting to be um just in any type that has to anything that has to do with mental health, right? Keep going. Because we need people that look like you. Because a person, a person like me needs a person that looks like you. We really do. You guys are valued, and I I'm going to give every one of you guys flowers from the podcast because it's it's a hell of a fucking job.
SPEAKER_05Amen.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So what's been going on with you, baby? How is your mental health?
SPEAKER_05Y'all pray for me. Uh the beginning of the week, I'm just gonna share a small story. I got a call from my old job. And those that don't know, I used to be a contractor. So the reason why I'm at my current job, my old job, the contract ended. So it was just a lot going on. I used to contract for one of the big four. If you know the big four in auditing, that's all I'm gonna say about that. I love that job. I did it, so I worked through a big four for the United States Army. Um, contract got bought out by another big contractor, not quite a big four, but another contractor, but the salary was crazy. I was a certified trainer, award winner, um, had years in, knew what I was doing, still remember that shit with my eyes closed. I know the entirety of Fort Campbell, Kentucky, and Fort Campbell, Tennessee. Okay?
SPEAKER_06Yes.
SPEAKER_05Got a call to apply for a job, found it, you know, did everything I was supposed to do. Taylor, I always now I tailor my resume, try to put keywords in it. I and plus it's like, it's a shame, but I have about 30 different resumes and 30 different cover letters. I do. Just with general jobs and all this other stuff. So did the damn thing, hopped on it. I did it Thursday, so right before Juneteenth. Checked my email on Monday. Got, you know, denied. And I was heartbroken. I didn't meet the criteria. And I'm just like, I met the criteria on the first contract. I, you know, I did so I literally called my, I called both my parents and I was just in tears because when you really, and again, I and this would be trying, I'm trying to have this be the last time I say it because I'm really trying to be positive so I can fully fucking move on. But when you don't like your job and you think you have a way out and it gets snatched from under you over some shit you fucking know, that shit is heartbreaking. It's devastating. So I can't lie, I had a, I had a I had to go home from work. I had a a slight mental break. Um, I felt incapable, I felt like a loser, I felt inadequate, and I just felt fucking stuck. Like I was just, I was devastated on Monday and Tuesday. And it's just like that was job number 398 that I've applied for. That was job 398. And I just, I think for me having to remember that it's not just me going through this and because of where we're at as a country with who we have in the in the uh Oval Office right now, I still feel like people are punishing black people because of how we voted. So it's really hard for we already have a lot of strikes against us systemically anyway. But you know, even with the study that just came out how y'all are out here denying damn near 95% of applications off of an AI software and it keeps your application out of the loop for 320 days. How is that fair? So it's it's just it's just a lot. So I'm really trying to find trying to find the peace. Because my, you know, I don't have a therapist right now. Um my therapy options have exhausted. So I'm really just on a skim and a prayer with trying to just find a positive and move on because it's when I feel like I haven't had a win in so long. So doing this is enjoyment for me because it's so many areas of my life where I feel like I'm just inadequate when it comes to my job. You know, when it comes to my love life, when it comes to my career, it's just nothing is going right. Everything I've tried to do just within the last six months, everything has fallen through. Everything. Even me trying to get into a um a community college, that shit didn't even go right. And I got accepted, but didn't realize FastFuzz and scholarship stuff does not cover community college. And I'm like, I don't have 6,000 to give y'all. So I'm just, y'all just really just keep me near it across because I don't know what's next. I have no idea what I want to do. Everything I thought I wanted either it didn't work out or I just I'm not interested anymore. So I don't I really don't know where I'm gonna be in a year. But you know, it's hard when you see everybody around you either growing, moving, or getting the things you really want. It's hard. So you know, I might laugh and be smiling, but some days I r like I really felt dead on the inside of my name. Yeah, it's heavy. It's heavy.
SPEAKER_00I I just want you to know that I love you.
SPEAKER_01And if when you're feeling like that, you can always call me.
SPEAKER_05I know.
SPEAKER_01Because you know how I am. I don't like to tell. I I really, you know, and you can tell in my voice when something's wrong, right?
SPEAKER_05I know I know it every time. Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_06What's going on?
SPEAKER_01Um, just like when you on the phone and I know something is just eating up at you. I feel, and I know I I say this all the time on this podcast to you, but I believe that you are going, and I believe it, that you are going to have a major win this year. I don't know what it's gonna be, I don't know when it's gonna happen, but I believe you have been through enough bullshit. Enough bullshit, and I believe that you are going to have a major win. I believe, and I and I I want to put this in the fucking universe right now. You're gonna get a phone call. Hey, is this Ashley? Hey, we would like to offer you this job. We would like for you to, you know, interview. And I believe that you are going to get the job that you deserve. Because you you you deserve it. You fucking deserve it, Ashley.
SPEAKER_06Don't make me cry up in here. Y'all smoking up in here. Don't do that. Do not do that.
SPEAKER_01You do, you do. You do so, you do so much and you know how to do your fucking job. Whatever you have, every job that you have had, I feel like you have done it to the the tenth power. Even when me and you were working together, you were just like, you were on your shit.
SPEAKER_05I was still, if I would, if honestly, if I would have still been living in Nashville, I would have still kept that for sure.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Still. That you know what, that was one of my outside of my biggest blessing there was meeting you. But honestly, when I think that was a I loved it. Well, of course we dealt with bullshit, but as a team, it just, I fucking love that job.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05That was that was I mean, and and think I think about it like this. I sold, and Laura rested, rest in, and we didn't say it last week, but rest in peace to Take Keith. Um, I still they're still holding out details, and we don't know the full, you know, severity of what happened, but like I'm I I sold a laptop to Take Heath. And back in 2023, I sold a laptop to Take Heath.
SPEAKER_01I remember when you told me about it, you was like, I saw, she was like, I sold a laptop, laptop to Take Keith. I said, Take E. You're like, yeah, take Eath, fuck these niggas up.
SPEAKER_05And I know I said, because I remember Jazz was on like uh the whole everybody was like, you stupid. I said, yeah, ooh, take it, fuck these niggas up. Fuck these niggas up.
SPEAKER_06Take his teeth up. Take Keith. I said, yeah, take E, fuck you, do that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. The fact that we are not going to hear that voice anymore on any of it, like, and I know he has productions on productions on productions, like just lined up, but at the same time, like, he was only 29 years old.
SPEAKER_05He was fucking, this man didn't even make it to his 30s. And I think what that ate me up this week about that situation. Well, first, I love you too, friend. Um you said to me, I was like, I'm gonna say it back. But I just listen, anybody that don't, if y'all don't know, y'all know now, I am a huge key glock stand. I was out of town when he was in my area here. I could the next time you go on tour, I'm going to see my baby. That I'm a key glock stand down. So his newest album that just came out, Project X. I hear Tay, like I I for was it the first. I was like, Tay Keith, I was like, oh. So like you, Tay Keith, you really fuck niggas up with this. And I don't think people understand how major that, how major he was, because Tay Keith was one of the few, if not the only, black artists that had a fucking studio in Nashville. Tay Keith was a revolutionary. This, first of all, this man is from one of the richest cities in America, one of the blackest, most beautiful cities in the world. He is from Memphis, Tennessee.
SPEAKER_02Hello.
SPEAKER_05And I stand by that. However, I think he understood what his position was. He understood how I think Nashville, even though it'll never replace Memphis, I do think Nashville is gonna have a black boom because obviously, outside of having black country artists, a lot more people are moving to Nashville. Nashville, the black community is having a lot more emotion. You were seeing black businesses pop up, the African-American Music Museum. It's a lot of shit that goes on in Nashville that people don't even realize. That's why we discussed it on our show. So I think he had foresight. He really knew.
SPEAKER_01He knew what the future was, and he knew that Nashville, even though everyone wants to try to, and I swear to God, like I always have to stop people and be like, oh, this is the white Atlanta. First of all, it's not. We have a rich Memphis and Nashville are, and I will say this, are the only two big cities in Tennessee. And I know Knoxville and Chattanooga, they have history, like black history. But when we talk about black history, we are talking about Nashville and fucking Memphis. Nashville has four HBCUs. Memphis the groundwork for for for um uh for marches, for activism. Like, come on. Blues music, the home of the blues music, jazz.
SPEAKER_05The the the place where Martin Luther King was assassinated.
SPEAKER_01Yes. So when we talk about black, blackness in Tennessee.
SPEAKER_05Tennessee has a rich black history.
SPEAKER_01Thank you. So take Keith and I and I because I met him once. I met him one time, and I just could feel like I didn't feel any type of um you know how when you meet certain people, right? You meet certain people and you're like, damn, that their energy is all over the place. I didn't feel that. There's there's certain people that I've met in life that have been celebrities or they've been producers to like huge stars where I'm like, damn, their energy is just everywhere. Would take you. I didn't feel I didn't feel that at all. And I met that I met that nigga one time. One time. So it kind of, it really, it it fucked the city up. It fucked all, it fucked the state up.
SPEAKER_05If it it fucked hip hop up. Like this, this, first of all, this man has one of the most recognizable producer tags in history of any generation. Even when I think about the icons, you know, you think about the Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis's the Pharrell, you know, the subtlety of him having four people produced it. You think about Timberlin or uh even the new guys, you think, you know, Tay Keith.
SPEAKER_01Um DJ Muster, you think about it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05You know, Tay Keith, what do you need? Like, and this man has so many production credits. And I I think the sad part is, you know, even like you said, he has credits on credits on credits, but he probably has so many things that haven't been released or things that are coming up in the future.
SPEAKER_01So it's just like I hate every time I hear that, I'm gonna, I'm on, I'm gonna get, I'm just I'm gonna get sad.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. And I can just imagine how he would have revolutionized music some more.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I can just imagine how, you know, how different Nashville could have been with his influence and what he was doing and what he was trying to do.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Instead of going to Atlanta or going to to, hey nigga, let me just slide in Nashville for a cute a little brief session.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_05You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01And you see more black artists coming to Nashville. I mean, look at Neo. Now, Neo, I'm gonna say this. These these white people don't fuck with you like you think they do. I don't give a damn what they say, what that these white people do not fuck with you like uh like like you think they do. They fuck with you because you're Neo. That's it. And I'm just listening you can y'all can say what the fuck y'all want to say. I'm just telling it like it is, because guess what? I was born in this fucking city, raised in this this this whole metro area, so I know what the fuck it is. You can't tell me shit about Nashville. Period. You can't so um condolences to Take's family, um, and we we will miss him. He I mean it's just it's just a sad, it's just sad all around.
SPEAKER_05It is.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, um, damn, godly. It's like it's kind of that's it's heavy.
SPEAKER_06It really is.
SPEAKER_01It is it is heavy, it is heavy because he did so much like being raised in Memphis, going to MTSU, Middle Tennessee State University for people that don't know, graduating and and and having his own studio in Nashville. And I remember when it was first announced that he had a studio. Um it's just we need we need we need more people like that. You know, I see what Starlito is doing. I see, shout out to Starlito, shout out to his podcast, uh uh him, Carl uh Los, all of y'all. Like it it, you know, shout out to black men that are that are doing things to revitalize Nashville, black Nashville, right? Um, and also let niggas know that there's black people here. You don't have to go looking. We're here. The fuck? So um, yes, condolences to take uh Take Heath's family. Um so where we're gonna start on, because I don't want to say move on, I feel like I say move on a lot. I don't want to say move on from that. Um, but what we're gonna start all on the start off on on the list is um Juneteenth celebrations. I feel like Juneteenth this year was bigger than ever. I felt like there was an energy. Around all of us as black people. I think we had to because of everything that they're trying to throw at us. The government, the system, all of that shit. And I feel like this was not only the beginning of something, but the I feel like it's gonna be revolutionary. I feel like next Juneteenth is gonna be bigger. But I've seen a lot of videos from Chicago, Tulsa, Houston, Memphis, here, even here in Nashville at Centennial Park. And I'm so fucking mad that I did not go. But shout out to just shout out to all the organizers that did their thing at Centennial Park on Juneteenth. Like we see y'all. Like we see y'all. And I'm so proud to be a part of Blackness.
SPEAKER_05Juneteenth was great this year, but the only thing that's pissing me off is what happened to Tania Nicole Miller.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05This shit hasn't made national news.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_05And nobody is talking about it. So we're gonna address it here.
SPEAKER_00Correct.
SPEAKER_05That's a dark cloud over Juneteenth this year for me. And I think the reason why is how insidious how insidious it is how she wound up. Um, I'ma just read, and I'm getting this from blackknowledge.com. This isn't on any major news network. This isn't on any of the local TV networks. This is from blackknowledge.com. Tania Nicole Miller, a 27-year-old black woman originally from Flint, Michigan, was tragically found deceased hanging from a tree in Gwincherry Park in Glaive, Florida, which is Miami Dade County, on or around June 18th, 2026. Authorities from the Miami Dade Police Department initially labeled her death as an apparent suicide involving no immediate signs of foul play. Major mainstream news outlets have not actively reported on social media incident. Social media posts indicate that local stations initially declined coverage because the death was classified as a suicide. Her family and community members are strongly rejecting the suicide ruling. They described Tania as a vibrant, happy person who loved making videos and state that taking her own life was completely out of her character. The timing of her death occurring right around Juneteenth holiday weekend, combined with the history of racial violence in the United States, has triggered immense pain, distrust, and public skepticism. Tania's loved ones have flown down to Florida to seek clarity, demand full autopsy results, and push for a thorough, transparent, excuse me, transparent independent investigation. The family is actively searching for any witnesses who were who were in or around Wynne Cherry Park on June 18th. First of all, black people don't fucking hang themselves from trees.
SPEAKER_01Correct.
SPEAKER_05That ancestrally don't make fucking sense. And honestly, people thought my oh, you know, it's Miami Day. First of all, half of them motherfucking white people y'all walking, y'all think are walking around are fucking racist ass Cubans or, you know, Latinas don't.
SPEAKER_01Let them know, Fran, because Miami, Miami is a Miami is fucking racist.
SPEAKER_05That's where I've never fucking been. Y'all don't even let people darker than a paper bag go in the clubs. So yes, it could have fucking happened in Miami. Let's not forget Miami just isn't Trina and Trick Daddy. It's more the and let's be clear, y'all keep the niggas in one part of Miami Day.
SPEAKER_00Hello. Let them know, friends.
SPEAKER_05Let's not act like this can't happen. You have motherfuckers, oh, this can't happen, Miami. Yes, the fuck it can. That little bitch that was on Love Island who looks like a racist Miranda Crossrove was from Miami Day. And she distinctively did not kiss any of the black men on that show in the kissing channels. So you're not finna fucking tell me that, oh, this yes the fuck it can happen in Miami. That lady did not hang herself.
SPEAKER_01No. Every time you say that.
SPEAKER_05I'm so glad that her family are taking the initiative to do an independent autopsy because y'all are fucking lying. And and and and and and this girl traveled, and my biggest thing is you don't know the motives of people, but you're not finna say that it logically don't make sense. This lane, this young lady came from Flint, Michigan. You traveled all the way to Miami to hang yourself. First of all, again, ancestrally us hanging ourselves don't make fucking sense. But it's never it never happened. Why would she travel to do that? Y'all are fucking lying. And y'all, this hasn't made any of the even like in the Miami local news. I looked this up on Google, nothing popped up. A lot of the it's a lot of black content creators, independent black news sources, or black social media pages. This didn't even pop up on a local news platform. Let alone national news. So say her name, Tania Nicole Miller. And baby girl, may you rest in peace. May you get justice. And I pray we get some answers soon, because that's bullshit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I uh it's getting to the point where every time I hear something about a black person or just any I'm just speaking, I'm speaking on black people. Fuck everything. I'm speaking on just on black people. Every time I hear about a black person being hung uh on a fucking tree, I believe that the police had something to do with it. I believe they're in on it. I believe that they because black people do not hang themselves. Why would she why would she fly or drive, right? From Flint, Michigan to Miami Dade to hang herself from a tree. That doesn't make any type of universal common sense at all. So when they said, oh, it was an apparent suicide, that's a fucking lie. Every time I hear that shit about a black person being hung from a tree, that's a lie. And who are the people that she went with? That's what I want to know. Who are the people that she went with? Who are the people that she was hanging around and there's no there's no details. There's no details because I and then people are like, well, what about no? The government systematically, for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, have been trying to rid us to terrorize us. I don't believe anything a police department has to say when it comes to black people hanging themselves uh uh on a tree. Never have, never will. Because black people don't kill it. We don't hang in a fucking tree, a tree hanging. Black people know our history. We know.
SPEAKER_05Even if y'all try to hide it and take it from us, we know.
SPEAKER_01We know. That's some white shit right there. So what so my thing is what group did it? What group of people, because here's the thing, and I and I and I told my nephews this, I told my brothers, and I told my cousins this. When you decide to go somewhere by your motherfucking self, make sure you have that thing on you. Make sure you have a weapon on you if you have to go somewhere by yourself. If not, be with a group. If you know you're in a different city, be with a group of people that you know you can fucking trust. You should never, never be by yourself at two, three, four o'clock in the fucking morning in a city that you don't know nothing about.
SPEAKER_05No, because you, yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_01I just, as black people, we just we cannot, we cannot continue to keep doing shit like this. I'm I'm serious and I don't, this ain't no fucking game. I am dead ass. We have got to start traveling in fucking groups. We do. Because the way that this comes.
SPEAKER_05People that know me, I have people that have my location. If I'm going, even if I'm going, like for instance, I travel to Atlanta all the time. Yeah. One of my best friends in the whole wild world loops in Atlanta. My mama knows when I'm leaving, she knows when I get there, and I'm talking to her every day.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Honestly, people that know me and you know me very well, if I haven't talked to this man on the phone in over three days, something is wrong.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05If you, if you heard my mama ever say, I haven't talked to my baby today, me and my mama, my I talked to my mama, and by fault, my dad, because he always with her, but I talk to my mama every day, even when I was studying abroad in London.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I talk to my mama every fucking day. So people that know you know your habits. It's just even now, like if I'm at, like, hey mom, me and the girls, we finna be out the night. I'm spending the night at so-and-so house. And I'm grown, or I'll show when she wake up in the morning and she she has a text for me saying where I'm at and who I'm with. Yeah. And again, I'm 32. I don't have to do that. But shit, even you, if I start back dating again, this is the nigga I'm with. This is his name.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05When I you know, when I was dating, when I was back with you, every nigga I didn't know.
SPEAKER_01You send me listen, you sent me pictures and I said, okay, cool. I got and most of most of all my female friends always have done that with me because again, I'm like, you're female. You are a black woman. You need, you need someone, because I remember one of my friends, she was like, she was like, oh yeah. She was like, should I send you? I was like, yes, nigga. You send me, let me tell you something. Send me your location, send me the address. Because if you are going somewhere at 8 o'clock at night, you talking about you meeting someone in a different city, fuck that. Especially black women. Especially black women. You guys need to protect yourselves. Let your let your people know your family know, like, hey, I'm going. Because even when we went to St. Louis for Kendrick Lamar's, I text my family in a group chat. I said, hey, just so y'all know, I made it to St. Louis where he even when we were stopping at gas station, I was like, hey.
SPEAKER_05Because you Well, you remember when I was I stopped and you called me. You said, Why you stop? And I said, I was trying to get to that background. I said, You know what you're right. This man stayed on the phone with me until I got back. He's like, get your ass back on the highway. Yes. Back on the highway, he said bye and hung up.
SPEAKER_01Yes. I don't play, I don't play, I do not play about black women. The way black, like listen, Malcolm X said it better uh the best. The black woman is the most disrespected, disrespected woman in the world. Okay? They will do anything to black women. And I just, this story is really like every time I see a black woman, and black men too, but when it comes down to black women and they're talking about apparent suicide, bitch, that's a fucking lie. That is a lie. The police department is trying to cover that up, and they know they are trying to cover that up. So yes, I'm glad. Every time something like this happens when a black person is apparent suicide over fucking uh uh hanging in the tree, get an independent. Get an independent because they these these coroners, they work for the police, they work for the state. They work for the police uh the police department.
SPEAKER_05It's all tied together.
SPEAKER_01They all tied together. So get an independent coroner to come in there and assess what happened.
SPEAKER_05And they always recommend when you I was watching um, it was a true crime documentary that years ago I was watching, and this always stuck with me. If you're going to go the independent route, try to get somebody from out of state.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Don't get anybody. Let me tell you something. Do not, because they're in the state of Florida, do not get any, do not get anybody from Florida. Get someone from hell. Shit, Montana, Idaho, get some shit. I'm just, I'm saying, I am from a different state. Because at the end of the day, these independent uh corners, they still, some of them still work for the fucking state. You don't know who they're dealing with.
SPEAKER_05So you don't know who knows who. So you yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But yes.
SPEAKER_05Well, work some peace to you, sweetheart. Um again, I pray. Because I just hate tragic deaths like that because I feel like the soul is never at peace.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And I feel like in order to start the process of peace in the afterlife or wherever she's at, justice has to be at least served first.
SPEAKER_01Correct. Correct.
SPEAKER_05Um lighter note.
SPEAKER_01Yes. On a on a on a lighter note. Um do you think Spin Net would be Song of the Summer?
SPEAKER_05Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05First of all.
SPEAKER_01Because some people are saying, some people are saying shebang from you know what the fuck is that?
SPEAKER_00That's a song.
SPEAKER_05I'm so serious.
SPEAKER_00No, that's a song from from Drake.
SPEAKER_05From his new first of all, that nigga just got outsold by fucking Olivia Rodrigo. He can shut the fuck up. Ain't no, don't fucking piss me off. Listen, tell that Canadian criminal to go back to where the fuck he's at. I don't even know. Well, how does the song even go?
SPEAKER_01I'll I'll s I'll send you. I'll send you this song.
SPEAKER_05Don't send that shit to my phone. I think the six-year-old mother is walking around talking about spin that shit. Get the fuck out of here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, listen, this is what they're saying. Uh, and and I mean, listen, I think spin that is definitely gonna be the song of the summer because you got niggas. First of all, there's more niggas than females singing the song. But still and doing dances to it.
SPEAKER_00See all right now. Y'all are uh oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05Listen, I'm not surprised being the bedazzled epidemic. You bitches can't even find diamonds in the stone no more, so it's not shocking to me.
SPEAKER_01So the bacon. It's the first of all, the summer has just begun, okay? The summer has just begun. It is June. You got June, July, August. Y'all know fall doesn't actually start until September, like the 21st or 22nd.
SPEAKER_05Actually, you know what?
SPEAKER_01Let me, let me just, let me just, no, fuck that button.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, with them playing with the weather machine and global warming, fall is finna cease to exist in a minute. Oh, okay. Well, yeah. Um I said too much.
SPEAKER_06I don't miss me. Hold on, I'm trying to figure out.
SPEAKER_01Hold on, really? Hold on, I'm trying to figure on. Hey Siri, when is the first day of fall in 2026?
SPEAKER_06I found this on the web.
SPEAKER_01You know what?
SPEAKER_05Hey Siri. When is it the first day of fall? September 22nd, 22nd.
SPEAKER_01Yep, yep. It just pulled. Yeah. They purported. Yep, September 22nd. Um, Libra season, baby. But no, listen, it says summer is here, weather, weather is nice, days are long, and so are the nights. And most importantly, the tunes are on. So now we're back. This is mainly due to Drake's three-headed monster release of I don't give a uh listen. I will say I have been listening to Janice Shut the Fuck Up. Um, I don't know why he's telling this woman to shut the fuck up. It is a good song. There's one line that I was like, eh, this this shouldn't have put it in here. But that is probably one of the only songs that I I can say that feels like old Drake. Um, but yeah, and and people are like, have you listened to the album? So you like Iceman? No, I've only listened to like two songs. I'm sorry. They're like, oh, you ain't a real Drake fan. Sir, I never said I hold on, wait a minute. I'm not today's Drake fan. I'm not today's Drake fan. How about that? When you're talking about.
SPEAKER_05I'm not talking to a subgroup of niggas that was licking the public ice cube to support your favorite artist. Kendrick will fucking never. Y'all sitting there kind of licking, all y'all getting damn germs and mono for fucking Drake. Please.
SPEAKER_01So, yeah, we don't even have to comment. Like, I uh spin that is going to be the song of the summer because literally every day I hear a car spin that shit. Yeah, spin that shit. I know that's right, damn it. Get your fucking life. And now that this song has crossed over into, you know, the kind of gospel version.
SPEAKER_06We're wrong to scamming.
SPEAKER_05Why do we always have it was more so funny than anything? I get it though. I know. Like I wanted to be mad, but I was like, this. I was hoping that.
SPEAKER_00I'm done. I'm done.
SPEAKER_0510% of the church kid left in me was screaming.
SPEAKER_01I'm done. Um, but yeah, spin that shit is our song of the summer.
SPEAKER_05Um and I have an honorable mention.
SPEAKER_01Go ahead.
SPEAKER_05My personal favorite, my song of the summer outside of spin that shit is got my clothes when the clean everything pink, you know everything. And my baby daddy Tizo touchdown. Listen.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And as a pink lover, I'm biased. Biased, can't even hold you. Shout out to you, Mana Leo.
SPEAKER_01Um, on some really good news, Obama's uh People magazine cover. Let me tell you something. There is not a day that goes by that Orange Puss does not think about the Obamas. Like there is not, and I and I really think a certain um, I feel like a lot of um I just think him and his whole fucking administration wakes up every fucking day and think they just just start talking shit about the Obamas. That's how much the Obamas are on their fucking mind. He did an interview uh with uh booty ass.
SPEAKER_05I did arrest Trump, Deport Melania, draft fair and fucking nigga.
SPEAKER_01He did a interview. I'm gonna pull this, I'm gonna pull this up. Um this is this is this is fucking hilarious. I want to um Obama because I think the interview is gonna pull up real quick. Obama, but damn, so many okay, so hold on.
SPEAKER_03I'm I'm not ignoring about it. And I I know I'm not ignoring it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I I know I know I know I kind of like it. I do worry sometimes. I you know, I've heard some of the guys in uh, you know, talk about changes in the locker room now and how kids are you know, some of the younger players, instead of just talking or playing some midwiss or something, everybody just like talk to your phone on the phone. You know, the other thing I believe in and and part of what we try to teach uh in our leadership training is I believe in face-to-face. I believe in uh conversation. So if this whoever you were talking about was in front of me, it would be which has happened a couple of times. He don't talk like that. Because he knows better. I think never and I think there is a um that filter of the phone creates a situation both where people just say I mean kind of crazy stuff, but they would never say to your face with no consequences.
SPEAKER_05And in the words of the icon that is MC Deborah, he's a big deal.
SPEAKER_01And he meant with listen, he said, I got a whole fucking building about me and my fucking family, bitch. You still a pussy ass ho. He didn't even have to say it. And black people said oh.
SPEAKER_05Don't fucking play with Barack Hussein Obama, our forever president. Don't play with my forever first lady. Because in my head, all I hear is my president is black, my Lamborghini's blue. Fuck you, Trump.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. So shout out to all the smoke podcasts. They um they had the interview with President Barack Obama. Period. Yeah, and like he said, puss asshole, what you talking about? Nothing.
SPEAKER_05I found a bro nigga said some.
SPEAKER_01Shout out to the Obamas, man. Like just class, elegance. They are the only, let me tell you something about the Obamas and why white people and non-black people can't stand the fucking Obamas. They are an image of blackness. The image of blackness that contradicts everything that they have ever said about black people. And that's why y'all would stay fucking mad. Period. There were no fucking baby mamas and baby daddies and kids out here running crazy and running, you know, rampant on drugs and shit like that. And I'm listening, and I'm and I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying nothing about nobody else's children or no other administration. But what I'm saying, and I'm speaking solely, I'm not playing with you today.
SPEAKER_06Ah, I heard that dog.
SPEAKER_01If you know, you know. But what I'm saying is, people can't stand that they had such an amazing eight years. Run because black people, black, black, black people, we have been mindfucked to think that black people, society as a whole, has been mindfucked to think black people are a certain type of way. And baby, we here and we listen, and we ain't going nowhere.
SPEAKER_05And let me tell you something. Y'all can say what y'all want to, but Barack Obama, I also, when we talk about them, I don't think we reverence Sasha and Malia enough. Them girls had the pressure of the entire world on their shoulders. When you think about people's children in office, you know, they they knew from a young age, being young black girls, they couldn't mess up. They couldn't do certain uh they were stellar. We heard no scandals about them when they were in the White House, and I think they knew the role that they play in their parents' presidency. So them young ladies who are now doing amazing.
SPEAKER_01Um I mean they're executive producers, they are working in film.
SPEAKER_05They're writing, like yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01But that that that's what a that's a black woman. Those are black women though. But we we sit up here and we say, yeah, they couldn't do, but that that is a black woman.
SPEAKER_05Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01You know what I'm saying? Like, and it shouldn't have to be like that. And I I love you black women, you shouldn't, you shouldn't always have to be a hundred percent. You shouldn't always have to be a hundred percent. But thank you. Because you give more life and more culture to everybody and anybody.
SPEAKER_05It's crazy that you say that because it was an article my friend sent to me. It was a video, and it was just like, you can either be a bitch or have an autoimmune disease. So she sent, she's I sent this to all my black female friends because I think a lot of us are either like, because I know for me, I'm big because I'm overeat. I have morphia because I I I was under stress, but it's just like, imagine if black women had the grace of women of other races when it came to how we express emotion, with how we're how, you know, we will be allotted spaces to be vulnerable, a lot of space, a lot of space to show, you know, us cry. It would just be amazing if we had that same grace, man.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And it's sad because, you know, now that I'm older and I see what my mama has my mom has gone through, what my grandmother went through before she passed, right?
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01You just don't understand the fight of a black woman until, you know, you you you come to terms of like, damn. So again, black women, you will always get your flowers on this podcast. Thank you, friend. Uh clean of peaches. And shout out to all the smoke podcasts. Um, you know, them you know, at first, we first when they first came out, I was like, I don't know about this podcast. But you know what, they they do a really good job. They do an excellent job.
SPEAKER_05And I give it to them. I don't like their personal views, but yeah. Yeah, they do. They do.
SPEAKER_01I got you. I got you. But shout out to the Obamas. Shout out to the Obamas, as always.
SPEAKER_05Period. My our forever first family.
SPEAKER_01Forever first family.
SPEAKER_05We got a plate in them in my house. And when I get my own problem, I'm giving me a belt, Barack Michelle, Sasha Malia plate too. Hello. Matter of fact, let me tell you, my mama, I'll never forget when he, I was a freshman in high school and I was sick I couldn't vote. And I was like, he's not gonna win, he's not gonna win, he's not gonna win. And my dad was like, he, he was like, my dad was like, I feel it, he's gonna win.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05They let me stay up all night with them. When they said Barack Hussein Obama is the next president of the United States of America, at 14 years old, I was in tears.
SPEAKER_01It shifted.
SPEAKER_05I understood the shift.
SPEAKER_01It shifted. It shifted that was a shift. Say what you want to say. President Barack Obama was the first president. And let me tell you something. I will always, because I know I'm the shit. President Barack Obama is the first president that I ever got to vote for.
SPEAKER_06I had literally, I literally say the second time I was at the booth.
SPEAKER_01I had just turned 18 and my granny said, Do you have your like this was in like July? She said, Do you have your voters' registration? I said, Well, no. She said, What? She said, You turn 18 in October. You need to get this shit done. Because by the time you turn 18, you will be, if you turn 18 this year, you will be eligible to vote. When in September, I think, and they were like, Well, you'll be 18, dah du da. Baby, got my voter's registration license. When I tell you I was in that fucking booth, and I was like, I did it didn't hit me until like after, like, I just voted for a black man for president, right? And I was just like, God. And when he won, when he won, my neighborhood, baby. My neighborhood, firecracker, pop, pop, pop. Like it was a it was a shit.
SPEAKER_05Like, I remember my grandma called mom's like, never in my life did I think I would ever see a black president.
SPEAKER_01A black president.
SPEAKER_05I'ma I'ma really have you laughing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05On my face, no. What is this? What is this application? She is it Facebook. This is TikTok. No, what is this? This is Instagram shit. It's so we girl.
SPEAKER_00Is it threads?
SPEAKER_01Is it Twitter? She ain't got no Twitter, y'all. She said she got off of that shit.
SPEAKER_05I got off of Twitter. It had to be 2014, 20. I said I liked it. I said I liked like an artist. I said, oh, they make it me. Shut up, you ugly funky bitch, or something. Somebody said, I was like, I felt like 50 cent. Damn, what'd I do? This picture is from October 30th, 2012. On my Instagram. The first time I voted, I voted for Barack Hussein Obama.
SPEAKER_01Baby.
SPEAKER_05With my bestie Bill Johnson purse on.
SPEAKER_01Listen. Listen, honey. She said, listen. Ashley was T baby. Ashley was T. If y'all could see this right now, my God. T. She said, bitch who? Bitch what? I'm.
SPEAKER_05Put my Levi's G's on.
SPEAKER_01Hello. Come on, Lee Boz. Shout out to Levi's. But yes, that it's just, it's what an amazing family. Like, honestly, you know, you know, and I know they had their ups and downs and stuff like that. You know, first of all, no president's gonna be fucking uh uh perfect. Perfect. They can't be. They're running a whole fucking nation. 50 states.
SPEAKER_00The fuck? So let them know.
SPEAKER_01Um, so um shout out to the Obamas uh beautiful spread in the The People's Magazine. Um moving on to some more blackness. Um the sixth annual Hollywood Unlocked Impact Awards took place on Friday, June 5th, 2026, um at the Beverly Hilton in Beverly Hills, California. Uh Innovator Award went to Tyler Perry, Legacy Award um went to Patty LaBelle, Pioneer Award went to Bazaar Boz Oma St. John. Boz Oma St. John. She's on the Real Housewives of the Yes, she's on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She used to be CEO of Apple Music, all of that. She's amazing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yes, I love her.
SPEAKER_01Culture Award went to RZ uh RZA. Uh Riza. Um RISA. Yeah. Fearless Award went to Kaylani. Yes, ma'am. Uh Spirit Award went to the Megan Good. Uh, the Megan Good. Um, Inspiration Award went to, of course, Kirk Franklin. And Community Award went to non no none of none other than our motherfucker here, Justin Jones.
SPEAKER_05Listen. Shout out to Justin Jones.
SPEAKER_01He has been both Justins. Justin Pearson, Justin Jones, they have been doing the work here in Tennessee. My God. Yes. They have been doing the work. They have been doing the work. Them niggas, I listen, they stay locked in. They stay locked in. So shout out to both of them. Um, and speaking of Tennessee, please vote for Jerry Green. Please, if you are listening to this and you are in Tennessee, please vote for Jerry Green and not Marsha Blackhorn. The fucking devil. My God.
SPEAKER_05Well, we're standing for the goddamn devil.
SPEAKER_01But shout out to Jason Lee. You know, this is the sixth annual Hollywood Unlocked. And me and Ashley were talking about this, you know, Jason Lee has really um matured um over time. And I think that is what, especially for black people, like maturing and understanding who you are, what power you have, what power you hold. Um, and I think Jason Lee has done a really good job. I know we have probably in past episodes talked a little shit about Jason Lee, but at the same time, I see him now um doing the work, his interviews with um, oh well, his recent interviews. You said what?
SPEAKER_05Have we talked about Jason Lee? I don't know if we did.
SPEAKER_01I feel like we, I feel like in our first couple of episodes, like a year and a half, like maybe a year and a half ago, we we might have jot talked about Jason. You know, listen, I'm gonna tell y'all. No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_05It's not that you just said a year and a half ago. Oh my God.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I know. This is episode 91, Fran.
SPEAKER_05I listen.
SPEAKER_01This shit is crazy. It's bonkers. But I'll say this. Um shout out to Jason Lee. Shout out to Hollywood Unlocked. Um, his latest interview, I think, is oh, you need to watch his later, his latest interview with the um Lorianne Gibson. Baby, she holds no.
SPEAKER_05I heard she was spill, I said, listen, that's on my list for this weekend. They said she was spilling, it wasn't even T. Somebody said, This is tequila.
SPEAKER_01This is tequila. Because when you have, let me tell you something about Lorianne Gibson.
SPEAKER_05And I'm gonna go, she's been in the game a long ass time.
SPEAKER_01She when you work with Michael Jackson, when she was on dance moms and she told them women, you don't know greatness. You don't know what it's like to feel greatness. So don't come in here and tell me how to do girl.
SPEAKER_05I have to You remember what she told uh Diddy, I'm not gonna shut the fuck up. I'll leave. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You're Diddy. You ain't no Michael. She says you ain't no motherfucking Michael. She's oh girl, oh Lorianne Gibson. Let me tell you something. That's that one right there.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, she is.
SPEAKER_01So you guys go check out the interview with Jason Lee and Lorianne Gibson. I gotta catch up on some of his interviews because I really do want to watch the one uh with him and Kay Michelle as well.
SPEAKER_05So um Jim and uh Carlos King, I like their interviews.
SPEAKER_01You know what? Listen, don't get me started because you know I love I love some Carlos King. I do too. Yeah. I love Carlos King too. All right. Shout out to Hollywood Unlocked Awards and Hollywood Unlocked. Um and going, you know, just black independent media. Uh shout out Jason Lee, shout out Don Lemon, shout out um just all the independent media uh sites, black media sites that have been doing the work. Because I feel like, as of lately, I feel like the last couple of months, I have been getting so much information from Don Lemon, so much information from the roots, which has been bought and owned by black people again. Thank God. Thank God.
SPEAKER_05Listen, I was talking to another friend about that. And I was like, you I remember when the ownership sold the first, I said, Oh, there's a change in their content. Even their headlines was off to me. So yeah, I've no I've noticed that too. They've definitely went back black.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm glad about that. I'm so glad. So shout out to all the black independent media out there. Don Lennon, we see you. Jason Lee, we see you, uh, The Roots, we see you. You know, I think I'm gonna make a list and I'm gonna, you know, um, just give it out to everybody and put it in uh the description below the episode so people can follow and just listen because this is our time. This has always been our time, and we need news from a black, reliable source. Um speaking of God, I'm gonna tell y'all like this. This this topic that we got, baby shit is about to fucking hit the fan. So um, my God, today. Um, as you might have heard or seen in the news, um Clive Davis, um the mogul hit making titan of the music industry and some other things as well, dies at 94. Baby shit is about to hit the fucking fan. Shit is about to hit the fan, and I'm saying it here, I'm saying it on this black ass podcast. Black people are about to come out. India Iree.
SPEAKER_05Chow, she wasted no fucking. If you had some motherfuckers doing tributes, then India Iree said, watch this.
SPEAKER_01Following the music bowl's death, singer India Iree wrote, Mark my words, watch what kind of archival interviews are about to come out. And that's all I'm gonna say on that because we listen, at this point, me and Ashley are just waiting. We wait for the interviews, they are lined up.
SPEAKER_05The books, the tell-alls, the tell-alls. It's it's it's it's finna go down.
SPEAKER_01It's finna go down. And all I can think about is the moment where Whitney Houston gave Brandy that note, was hugging Monica, talking to Monica while simultaneously, simultaneously handing Brandy that note, not even looking at Brandy.
SPEAKER_05Sure wasn't.
SPEAKER_01She knew exactly what she was doing.
SPEAKER_05She gave Brandy that hug and she skedaddled on.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Go ahead, Fran.
SPEAKER_04Roses are red. And we all saw Whitney hand you what she wrote. So if I ever meet you, Brandy, Roses are red. You're dumb.
SPEAKER_06You're dumb.
SPEAKER_05Can we, can we? That's one of my favorite black movies that is not discussed enough. This means my mom's favorite movie.
SPEAKER_01Loretta Devine to this day. Loretta Devine is so, she's amazing. I have always loved her. The the roles that she's always been in. And you know, she's a I saw somebody to comment.
SPEAKER_05It's a picture of Yala Vincent.
SPEAKER_06And she said the whole note. That's who we do.
SPEAKER_00So let me tell you.
SPEAKER_01When I tell when I tell you that's who we need, Iala, to to to to go to Brandy's house to have Brandy and Monica.
SPEAKER_06Look.
SPEAKER_01So ladies. So tell me, what, what, what, what, what read, what really happened?
SPEAKER_05Uh uh. Well, I don't feel like go speak into that hole. Go speak into the hole.
SPEAKER_06No, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
SPEAKER_01Do you know what Harriet? Do you know what she was doing? You talking about popping and butt.
SPEAKER_06Read the lyrics to so join the crew. What? That was, let me tell you something.
SPEAKER_05I went back to work after that interview aired. Me and my two black female coworkers at time looked at each other. We was in stitches all day. We was pop my butt, pop, pop, my butt. My butt all week, all week.
SPEAKER_01Oh God, she had, when I tell you, that was a moment in time. And she, and some, I think she had done a recent interview. I think it was like a month ago, but someone asked her, like, hey, what you go back and do. She said, mm-mm.
SPEAKER_06She said, I just shut, huh?
SPEAKER_01I think, honestly, I think when Iyala knew she was done, like she had had it up to here, is when them Brack that Braxton family, that damn Tamar, she said, Well, she needs to respect me.
SPEAKER_05She said, But did you but I'll never get my Tamar Mama, she got that ass in cheese.
SPEAKER_01She got, I have never listen, Evelyn, listen, Mama Evelyn, she said, why did I know that?
SPEAKER_05You will respect. I knew Mama Evelyn, I knew she kept a one spoon in her purse at church. Cut up if you want to.
SPEAKER_01And the thing about it is, I think, you know, again, you know, we gonna, I'm gonna say this, then we're gonna move on, but with Tamar, since she was the youngest, you know, she never really got, you know, dealt with, dealt with, you know, in a sense of, and so when my baby, but Tamar knew to shut the fuck up when mama ever she said, she said, you say something, me, Mama smacked the taste out of your mouth.
SPEAKER_06I said, She said, Okay, Mom, I'm going out.
SPEAKER_05I said, Well, sir.
SPEAKER_01Yes, ma'am. Uh, but yeah. Um, Clyde Davis is uh no longer here with us. Um, and me and Ashley are just gonna be sitting here waiting for the interviews because there's gonna be lots of them. Let me tell y'all something. Oprah Winfrey, come to the motherfucking forefront. Why why do you think and why did you think this was the perfect time to tell us about Brittany Houston? You thought like what what what is going on? You see, you sometimes I'd be like, damn, Oprah really is, she really did grow up in that. She grew up in Nashville. She really from here. TJ, why are you gonna? Because it's just like, my God. We didn't need to know, we didn't need to know this Oprah. We didn't need to know that who asked for this? So here's the thing, man, I'm finna.
SPEAKER_05Whitney, first of all, can we just go ahead, Brian? Monique was absolutely right.
SPEAKER_01There you go.
SPEAKER_05And as somebody who used to look up to Oprah in the communication aspect of it all, it hurts my heart. It really, really does. But, you know, when your ass fell when I say your Whitney came back, I think I'm gonna run on the stage and push your ass down. Cause who the fuck you playing with? Why would you ever disrespect the late grade nippy like this?
SPEAKER_00Girl, please. I think I'm gonna run on. I think I'm gonna run on.
SPEAKER_01Please. I just my thing with this was honestly, it's like no one can tell you what to do, Oprah. So I maybe, you know, you was like, oh shit, maybe I just I shouldn't have said that.
SPEAKER_05But it's like, you know, just uh I won't un I won't ever understand.
SPEAKER_01Oh, and then it's just like Well now Whitney Houston's estate is saying denies Oprah's claim Sangra was hot on her show. See, now you got see, see what this causes. Like, see what this caused.
SPEAKER_05Well, you could have just said nothing. Because that that didn't even this moment didn't even acclaim, especially, and I think it was so insensitive being that surrounding Clive Davis's death is Whitney Houston's death. This man literally partied over her power partied over her dead body. As well as he's was he's allegedly responsible for death of the j of Janice Joplin, Phyllis Hyman, pretty much any black mega superstar or white mega superstar you can name. He's tied to all of that shit. So it's just like whatever.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Yep. So we will be hearing interviews. We just sitting here waiting. We waiting for the motherfucking interviews. I'm sat. Sat. Um update on Carmelo Anthony. Um I kind of wanted to really end our kind of like list on knowing that um Ben Crump has assembled a team of people for um civil rights criminal defense attorneys join Carmelo Anthony's appeal pro bono after murder conviction in Austin Metcalf's death. A group of well-known civil rights and criminal defense attorneys announced Monday that they are representing Carmelo Anthony pro bono in the appeal of his murder conviction in 35, 35 years sentence in the death of Austin Metcalfe. Almost two weeks ago, Anthony filed a notice of appeal less than 24 hours after a whole white ass jury that's not in there, but a white ass jury. That's guilty of murder in the fatal stabbing at a Frisco track meet last year, according to Collin County Court's records. Um, let's see. According to the announcement, Anthony's appeal team will include Russell Wilson with the law office of Russell Wilson, another second, Gary Blasdeau with the Blesdo Law Firm, PLLC, and president of the Texas NAACP. Okay, Michael uh L. Ware with the law office of Michael Ware, um Brooke Brooke, Brooke Cluce with Ben Crump Law, uh Sean Durinda with uh Deridia Law Firm, and Justin A. Moore with uh Stafford Moore, PLLC down. Our appeal, our our appeal team has been retained following the conviction to conduct a fresh independent review of the trial record. You hear it? Let me let me say that again. Has been retained following the conviction to the to conduct a fresh, independent review of the trial record. The group said in a statement, we recognize the profound loss suffered by one young man's family and the uncertainty facing another. And we extend our respect to everyone whose lives have been forever changed by these events. Our responsibility is to determine whether a legal error occurred and to ensure that every issue supported by the record is fully and vigorously presented on appeal. That's what's come from CBS News. I'm gonna tell you like this. The way that I fucking feel about the situation, why the fuck were you trying to bully someone? That's this this say what you want to say. Say, yeah, he shouldn't have died or he shouldn't have. But you brunk a group of people, group of white boys, and it's all it's always in groups. Like I said on last podcast, it's always in fucking groups, white groups of men trying to take down a mob. A mob. That's what they are, a mob, a fucking a clan. How about that? A clan. That's what they won't say, but we'll say it. It's a clan of white boys trying to take down a black boy. Where did they get that from? Where did they get that from? Trying going around bullying people, trying to tell black people what the fuck to do, where to get up, where to stand, where to sit. Where the fuck did they get that from? That's a learned behavior.
SPEAKER_05History constantly repeats itself, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So, you know, again, like they said, condolences to the family, the the, you know, to that family that had lost everything. But at the same time, you gotta take some fucking accountability.
SPEAKER_05That's what they don't do. I'm not saying condolences to shit when you had the fucking father.
SPEAKER_01They said it. They they said it. I'm not I'm not saying that. Oh, oh, okay. I'm not, I'm not saying that shit. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm not saying that shit. You can't even laugh at the Yeah. I don't, I don't uh after I saw that video, I said, so why? It just didn't make sense. But then again, the fucking clan came over there trying to tell a black man, a black boy, sorry, a black boy, a young black man where to go. And that's what they have always done. So no, you can say whatever you should have said, you know, he shouldn't have been in the well, they should have minded their fucking business.
SPEAKER_05When you're black, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, leave leave black people alone.
SPEAKER_05Even I don't, it's just I know.
SPEAKER_01It gets it gets to a point where it's just like it's it's so we can't even protect ourselves.
SPEAKER_05This cause it's always a justification when it comes to us to them. Yeah for them. Yeah. So it's just like honestly, had that been my kid, shit, even if that was my nephew.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I would probably be in the orange dream suit because I'm gonna haunt your motherfucking ass down and I'ma get you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And you see what the daddy said after the after the trial. You see what that daddy said. He had a whole video talking about watermelon and muckins and all of this bullshit.
SPEAKER_05So granting with the fucking judge, because all y'all motherfuckers was in on it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So that's why they have this appeal team. That's why they have this appeal team. Because they knew something was wrong. We, we, as black people, already knew something was wrong. A whole white jury? Crazy work. The devil's work. The devil's work.
SPEAKER_05The devil, exactly.
SPEAKER_01So, you know, they they can sit up there. I'm I'm Carmelo Anthony. Let me tell you something. We got your back. We got your back. Because you know, at the end of the day, this is a lesson. Leave us the fuck alone. Leave us the fuck alone. You coming over there, get the fuck up and doing this, and tell you not supposed to be over here. Bitch, you got five seconds to leave me the fuck alone. And they always, and that's why I be trying to tell, I be telling us, they roll in groups, they roll in clans. It's never one-on-one when it comes to them.
SPEAKER_05I had an incident one time. I went to a PWI. It was my, it was again, my second year. And at the time, shout out to Kiana. She was my roommate that semester. Uh, she was never at she was never in the room. She was always sticking out of her boyfriend's husband, boyfriend's house. Shout out to her. But um, I lived in an all damn near all-white dorm. Oh, God. And I had an issue with a few of the white girls. I said, all right, y'all keep fucking. Matter of fact, keep fucking around. I want you to look up Lisa Left Al Lopez. I'm finna burn this motherfucker down because what y'all not gonna do is fuck with me. All y'all mad because I told you to pick your panties up and clean the toothpaste out of the fucking sink, and I'm being aggressive. I said, I can show you aggressive. Well, oh, okay, we're gonna never had a you're not finna fucking bully me over nothing.
SPEAKER_01Not pick your panties up.
SPEAKER_05Baby, when I tell you, I said, how about y'all look up Lisa Left Eye Lopez? Because I'm not the one. That white girl said, Oh, we who is that? Left out from TLC, yeah, look, look up what she did.
SPEAKER_00Because it's about to it's about to happen.
SPEAKER_01Stop fucking playing with me. Yeah, I um I had an incident off campus um when I first started uh at Lip School or whatever. And some white dudes or whatever, uh we um I didn't know them. They didn't know me. Um they saw me at the Green Hills Mall and you know I was by myself. But I had a knife on me. I had my book bag with me. I surely did. These motherfuckers roll up and was like, oh yeah, you're the you're the you're the black dude and da da da da da in my class and da da da and aren't you from Detroit? I said, no.
SPEAKER_06It's true.
SPEAKER_01I said, see, and and I knew they would see, see, and they always they're not you're not funny. I don't know who y'all are not funny. That was such a mic, that that was it. No, and I knew. I knew I grew up in that. I know how to deal with you bitches. Y'all are not funny. And the thing about y'all get off on trying to be.
SPEAKER_05They love trying to be motivated, man.
SPEAKER_01And so I said, No, I'm not from Detroit. I was born and raised here. What the fuck do you want? I said it just like that. The other motherfuckers say, hey, you better lower your tone. I said, Hey, I'll pop you in your fucking neck right now. What you gonna do about it? I said, What the fuck do you want? And he was like, we were just trying to have conversation. I know you weren't. I said, no, you weren't.
SPEAKER_05Claim the victim card. Get the fuck off.
SPEAKER_01I said, it'd be best for y'all to leave me the fuck alone. They walked away, went to school the next day. I ain't told my parents nothing, right? Because I knew I wasn't worried about their motherfucking asses. I wouldn't, I had my cousin on fucking speed dial down the street. Stop fucking playing with me. So, go to school the next day or whatever. And mind you, my house is 20 minutes away from David Lipskin. 20 minutes away. My family, I got family everywhere in Nashville. Everywhere.
SPEAKER_05Listen, TJ can whistle and the motherfuckers roll out the bushes. He ain't playing. He ain't exaggerating a little bit.
SPEAKER_01So they see me walking down the hall, whatever. It was like, oh, there's that black dude. I said, I stopped.
unknownGod.
SPEAKER_01I said, I said, so what's up? I said, what's up? He he a hee he he hell. Period. A hee hee hell. I said, you got so much to say. I said you ran up a bit ran up on me at the mall. You didn't do shit. I said, pussy. Maybe when my professor came out and said, y'all need to leave him alone. I heard the whole interaction. Leave him alone. Professor brought me into his office. He said, I didn't messing with you. I said, I said, no, they ain't messing with me. I said, but they about to get messed up. And he my person, hey, hey.
SPEAKER_06He said, hey. He said, hey, hey, hey, don't. He said, don't do it, Miss C. He said, don't do it.
SPEAKER_01Don't do it. When I tell you, I don't know what that professor did. I saw all three of them in that office with him. Baby, I ain't said a word. They ain't never else, they never said a word to me after that.
SPEAKER_05And the sad part is we're sitting here laughing, recounting. What I told you I went through, that is a microcosm of what it's like to be a black person in a white place. I have stories upon stories, what happened to me at that white ass university, what happened to me in corporate America, what happened to me now at my job. Yeah. And y'all think this ask the average black American person, like, hey, they have to deal with white people.
SPEAKER_01They get off on that shit. They get off on that shit because they have, like I said, I tell people all the time, the reason why they get off on that shit is because they have nothing to go back to. They have no culture. They have nothing. Like, honestly, they have nothing to do with that. Honestly, I'm just saying. They get off of that shit. It's nothing, you know, it's no secret. It is no secret. So, like I said, it's uh shout out, you know, we we we stand up with Carmelo Anthony. Because we have been in situations just like that. Just like that. Absolutely. All right, friend. Let's get back to um. Let's talk about some black business. What you got going on?
SPEAKER_05I want to do something different.
SPEAKER_01Okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER_05I have a black book by Dr. Joy DeGrade, The Post-Traumatic Slave Syndrome, America's Legacy of Enduring Injury and Healing.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_05Love that book. They just came out with the newly revised and updated edition.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_05And she's like a world-renowned professor who talks about, you know, race, race politics. She talks about, you know, black women education. She's just a very smart lady. And if you recognize her name, if you watch Hidden Colors, you she's, I think she's been interviewing all of them. She's just amazing. So I want you niggas to read books.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Go to your local black-owned bookstore. Um, there's not as many as I would like. Tennessee has one. It's right in front of Tennessee store. What's the name of that black bookstore? You know, name?
SPEAKER_01Um, oh gosh. It is, um, hold on, hold on. Let me look it up. I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_02Um, you're good.
SPEAKER_01Nashville. It is Alcaba Land Images.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_01Yes. It is a it is a iconic legendary bookstore um off of Jefferson Street, 2721 Jefferson Street, Nashville, Tennessee. Yep. Yep, yep, yep.
SPEAKER_00Um I what you got?
SPEAKER_01Let me see. Oh shit. Wait a minute now. Wait a motherfucking minute. I want to shout out um Coffee Black. Um, it is a amazing uh coffee shop in Memphis, Tennessee, the Memphis, Tennessee. Um, they actually have a new, it's called Gold Brew. Not Cold Brew, but Gold Brew.
SPEAKER_04I know that's right.
SPEAKER_01In a can that they have just launched. Um, so if you are ever in Memphis, um please go to Coffee Black. I want them to look at look at putting a location here in Nashville. They dump some of them.
SPEAKER_02Oh man.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they've done some pop-ups. They they also sell apparel, drink wear. I mean, it is just a celebration of being black and just enjoying coffee. So shout out to Coffee Black um in Memphis, Tennessee.
SPEAKER_05Coffee is like, anyway.
SPEAKER_01Coffee has always been, you know what? Don't listen, don't you?
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna be quiet. And Rice.
SPEAKER_01Did you know rice was oh, yes.
SPEAKER_06Absolutely knew that. Yeah, yeah, okay, all right.
SPEAKER_01Um, but yeah, coffee black guys. Um, what you what have you been listening to? What have you been looking at, friend?
SPEAKER_05As I've mentioned, honey, my boyfriend in my head, who again is Key Glock, Project X, it just came out literally on June 2. Huh?
SPEAKER_01I said, Y'all love hood niggas.
SPEAKER_05Actually, I'm not the hood nigga type. I really don't.
SPEAKER_01I I don't really want to call I I I don't even think, like to me, I don't think Keeklock is really like because I the way I've heard some of his interviews, he's very intellectual. I mean, I think there No, I think I think it's a difference between what people really think. Because I I tell people all the time.
SPEAKER_05I think he's hood adjacent.
SPEAKER_01There you go. There you go.
SPEAKER_05But I mean, listen, you got certain men, you just make an exception for. If he was a hood nigga, I wouldn't give a damn. Um love him best.
SPEAKER_00There's some exceptions.
SPEAKER_05There's exceptions to the rule. Um, first of all, I want to give a shout-out to Big Yevo, Birmingham, Alabama, native. Um, his album, I love the song that he has with Key Glock is Shake It. He remixed. Hold on, I'm not gonna play something, but let me play the first 10 seconds. If you can do that into a bomb ass song, Love Him Down. Like Ye too. Tyler Crater, who's one of my favorite artists. His song, Sack Harbor, and that guy have finally made it to streaming. Something old school that I've been listening to. I revisited One Wish. It is an album by the Voice, the Deborah Cox, that was released in 1998. My favorite from them, from that album is Nobody's Supposed to Be Here, We Can't Be Friends. Feature RL, Love Is On the Way, and One Day You Will. Deborah Cox is just severely underrated to me. Um, I love her down. I've also been in my um, oh, with the aid boycott Asian businesses, this is controversial, but a lot of old Japanese RB and hip-hop songs have been coming across my feed. And at first I'm like, damn, this is a nice song. I said, damn. Of course, this this is some shit that pops up. But it, I mean, it sounds good, but oh god. Um, something else that I've been listening to, I want to get, I think I shouted them out last week, but I'm gonna talk about them again. Infinity song, their album, Love Them Down. Sayonara, One Foot Out, and Breakout are my favorites. They are signed to Rock Nation. They are four siblings who are beautiful and they sing and write beautifully. And the beautiful Brittany Spencer, her song that came out June the 5th, Sober Thoughts. I've been busting that song to the ground.
SPEAKER_01Shout out to Britney Spencer.
SPEAKER_05Huh?
SPEAKER_01I said shout out to Britney Spencer. She is amazing and has an amazing voice. Um, yes.
SPEAKER_05Oh, and this is Girl I Found Out About. I saw her on um, she came across TikTok, and then I saw her on uh Colors. Her name is Earth Girl Chells, I think that's her name. Her song, My Daddy Died. She is fucking amazing. Um, her song is called Daddy Died, but she has been out, I think, since 2024. 2023, yes. She is based out of Chicago. Literally, when I say this girl wrote a song that encompasses grief, her name is Earth Sign Chells. I I don't like to compare artists, but like Tierowack meets Missy Elliott meets, but no, she's herself. Fuck that. Her delivery is fucking insane. I'ma send you her song. She just released a color show with a music video. This girl, I cannot wait. I think she's gonna be something serious. I love her. She's beautiful, she's she's black, she carries, I and it's crazy. She carries like I think she's gonna be next between rap. And shout out to my girl Megan. Whatever you got coming, sister, I can't wait. You just posted today about having a meeting about getting the big budget for act three. I want you to show up to all these niggas. I can't wait. And honestly, the only thing I've been watching is Love Island. I'm addicted. As soon as I get off of this call, I'm gonna get my happy ass upstairs. I gotta do a look clean and I'm getting into my episode tonight. Love, Love Island, Zell.
SPEAKER_01So I music, because you started with music. Um the Paradox New EP is out. Um, this is a whole black band that I am so excited for. I'm I I'm just I'm so happy for them. Um yes, their new EP is out. Um yeah, did it actually, you know what? Hold on, wait a minute.
SPEAKER_05What?
SPEAKER_00Wait a minute, hold on, hold the fuck up.
SPEAKER_01Am I being this EP was already Oh no, this is the song. Okay, hold on. Yes, Good For Me, the single. Sorry, the EP is it's been out since 2025, September 2025, by the way. Sorry.
SPEAKER_05Get this and let me check this.
SPEAKER_01Wait a minute. I was like, because a lot of these songs are on the I was like, hold on. But no, the Paradox um new song, Good For Me, is out, but go check out their EP. Um, just I mean, this band is, they're amazing. And they have already done Tiny Deaths. They were like, we're bringing back rock to the originators. And I said, come on, little niggas. Come on, little niggas. I love it. I love black people, and y'all hear me say this all the fucking time. I love black people that are in rock, that are in techno, that are in house, that are in country, because you guys are showing that these are our genres.
SPEAKER_05Absolutely.
SPEAKER_06Period. We never left, to be honest.
SPEAKER_01I mean, we never left. But we are taking, we, yes, you're correct, friend. We are taking hold of what we created. We're taking it back. Um what I've been watching, it's this show called Widow's Bay on Apple TV Plus.
SPEAKER_05You know what? You like the third person at the top. I'm gonna get into it. I'm gonna get into it.
SPEAKER_01It's so because it's like a slow start, the first episode, but then shit starts just getting like creepy and weird, but it's also like it's a comedy and a horror at the same time. Um, I'm loving it. I'm on the third episode. Uh and yeah, Widow Spay on Apple TV. That's the only thing I'm watching right now. Um, movie-wise, I'll be going to see Supergirl tonight uh at 11 o'clock.
SPEAKER_05I gotta go this weekend.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. I gotta go see Supergirl.
SPEAKER_05I saw Disclosure Day too this week.
SPEAKER_01Yes, I saw Disclosure Day. What did you think about it?
SPEAKER_05If you're not a spiritual person, you wouldn't like it.
SPEAKER_01Thank you.
SPEAKER_05I I loved it. Um I don't think it had to be out loud as everybody wanted it to be. Everything, a lot of people that have certain critiques to me when I look at what things that they like, you only like special effects.
SPEAKER_01There you go. Um it wasn't supposed to be aliens all over. I mean, we can talk about it because I mean the movie's been out for like two weeks. So my thing is, go ahead.
SPEAKER_05I truthfully feel like I would have loved the two main characters to be black too. Just because when you think about things that are in sync with nature, in sync with animals, in sync with Mother Earth, that's us, but okay, of course Hollywood has its own movie. But yeah, I thought the movie was fucking great. And the most powerful part of the movie at the end was she said, listen. And to be honest, I had a cra it was me and this, I don't know why I be talking to white people in the movies. This white guy was just like, you know, what did you think about the movie? So I said, I jokingly said I wouldn't be shocked if that was real footage that they were showing us and soft launching it. He said, That's what I fucking just he's he said, Kelly, didn't I just say that?
SPEAKER_06What if that's because you rock?
SPEAKER_01Like Okay. But uh my okay, my thoughts was when I left the movie, I was like, damn, what you just said, I wish both of the characters were black because when I look at the movie and everything that's going on, like in touch with nature, in touch with the that's that's black people.
SPEAKER_05Carmen Domingo did phenomenal in the movie.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he did. And I'm so glad that they, that he was a part of the film, right? And that he was, you know, he knew exactly what was going on, right? And I am, I love that part that he played in the film.
SPEAKER_05But can we shout first of all, this man, season three euphoria, the Michael Jackson, uh first part of Michael Jackson biopic, and disclosure day in the same fucking year, not to mention I think he has two more projects. This man is working. He's working in my Kaya in T.S. Madison Voice.
SPEAKER_01A black gay man just taking, like just take a black gay man taking over. You know what I'm saying? Like, yes, that too. That too. Love him down. But yeah, like I just, again, I wish, you know, it's a Spielberg production, of course. Um, but at the same time, I wish the two characters were. Yeah. Because when you think about sci-fi, you think about nature, you think about that's us.
SPEAKER_05That's Afrofuturism, baby.
SPEAKER_01Afrofuturism is us.
SPEAKER_05I need to see an Afrofuturism movie pretty soon. I would love to see that.
SPEAKER_01Oh God, I think it's coming. I think it's coming. I think it's coming. We have some we have some amazing directors. We have some amazing directors, and with the rise in original films from like um from uh what was that? Uh shit, backrooms and uh that movie was so fucking good, bro. Yeah, back room. First of all, they played their parts. Listen, obsession and backrooms proved.
SPEAKER_05I need to watch that. I still ain't watched that obsession.
SPEAKER_01Obsession, I mean, don't do that. But you know when okay, I'll I'll let you watch it and then we'll discuss it on here. But um, yeah, with the with obsession and backrooms making almost $300 million at the box office from original screenplays, we can do that. Black people are always, you know, we we can do that. We just have to film, you know, we did it with centers, right? Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_05So uh Oh, speaking of sinners and black, first of all, Boots Riley, come to the forefront. You know, you're acting like a punk ass nigga right now. Just because black, it's been some black women that gave you notable critiques on your films and said they didn't like it, and you're getting your fans to dogpile and disrespect these women. One of the women being the Francesca Ramsey, I don't fuck with you for that.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05And I've looking up your history, you've done this shit before. That's not fucking cool.
SPEAKER_01I I I didn't know that. I didn't know that about Boots Riley. I I think Boots Riley, I think I see now I don't even want to look it up because you told me as a black woman, so I believe you. I mean, that's just what that's what it is. I'm I'm the I'm gonna believe niggas always talk about I'm gonna believe black women before anything. I'm gonna believe, you can call me whatever the fuck you want to call me, but I'm gonna believe a black woman before I believe anybody else. And those are facts. So, yeah. Um, Boost Riley, do better. Um, you just should have stuck to Twitter promoting the fucking movie, and that's it. Like, you don't have to. That's the thing. You we've had comments on our Instagram posts about we're not entertaining these people, and we ain't even we listen, we're a small little target.
SPEAKER_05But as an artist though, not even like artists subjective, right?
SPEAKER_01Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_05When it comes to like visual art, audio art, artist subjective. So even if somebody, and and and the even the comments that I seen wasn't even that distant, but even if somebody got respectful, that's their right. But to to comment somebody, especially a black, you had a movie featuring the whole cast of color. Damn near your main cast were were black women, and there was one Hispanic and one Asian woman, and for you to dogpile on black women that specifically said they didn't like your film. How fucking ironic is that? So it leads me to believe that you're a performative ass nigga who's fucking butthurt and you probably don't like black women any fucking way. Like that's so disrespectful. I mean, we've had people tell us our show fucking sucks. Okay, have a nice day. Because it's not that's not for you. It's not for you, but again, that it leads to a bigger conversation because I'm sure if a black person, woman, man, day dum, whoever had a critique of our show and it was something that was just like like kind of not all y'all bitches ugly off, you know, the shit everybody said, but just like just a notable critique of our show. Okay, sis, brother, thank you. Like, you know, we're considering this, okay, and we move on.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_05But I think this goes to the bigger issue. Black men cannot handle rejection. The bulk of y'all can't.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Cause what the fuck was that? And then you're getting your fans of all different races, by the way, to dogpile and disrespect and dox these fucking women because they didn't like your movie. Some people didn't understand, and that's fucking fine. But how how dare you, Boots? Like, I'm not fucking with you for that. Fuck you.
SPEAKER_01That's not, that's not cool, bro. That's not cool at all. You need to go back into the go back into the kitchen and figure some shit out because we died.
SPEAKER_05No, you need to go sit on that chair and talk to that lady. That's what you need to do. Stay out the kitchen. We don't need you cooking nothing with that Haiti heart. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01What you said. Um, so Boo, do you have anything else um before we head out?
SPEAKER_05I don't. Um, it was a great show. You know, I had fun.
SPEAKER_01And listen, for people, there are hundreds of podcasts out there. If you don't like our podcast, go listen to another one. Because I I I tell you this: our podcast is us. It's natural, it's authentic. The shit that you see, like we're not trying to be nobody. We're really not. This is TJ. This is Ashley. We not, I'm not.
SPEAKER_05But on the positive side, then if you're fucking with us, we surely appreciate you.
SPEAKER_01If you are, if you listen, and the niggas know. If the if you fuck with us, you fuck with us, and we fuck with you heavy. You know what I'm saying? We're not up here trying to be nobody else. We're trying to be the black paradigm. That's it. And that's all. Yeah. And with that being said, um, our email address is theblackparadigm77 at gmail.com. Once again, our email address is the blackparadigm77 at gmail.com. And um, niggas, protect yourself. Um be in groups. Or at least inform somebody of where you're going. Let let either be in a group or let somebody know your location, where you're going, all of that. Um, protect yourselves. Pepper spray, knife, anything. Protect yourself.
SPEAKER_05Gun.
SPEAKER_01Gun.
SPEAKER_00Plenty of them. Pow pow. No, I'm dead.
SPEAKER_01No, but I'm dead ass for real. Protect yourself. For real. Guns, pepper spray. You you got you fire that warning shot, let a motherfucker know.
SPEAKER_05I got a taser with damn near double police charge or whatever the fuck. I know.
SPEAKER_01I got tasers, I got knives, I got pepper spray, I got bear spray. Because sometimes you need you got to hit a bitch with a bear spray.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, because that crack and that fitting all, that that regular shit don't be working. You gotta get this like Binocka to them dolls. That's what Tupac said the pilot justice is. You need the bear. I just remember, I just remember, I just remember someone said, is that fucking bear spray?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, bitch. Y'all crack heads.
SPEAKER_05Y'all be gonna fitting all of them from that eyes, baby. We need something stronger.
SPEAKER_01Hell yeah. Um, but yes, well, with all of that said, like black people, please take care of yourselves. We love you. Um, and with all of that, my name is TJ, aka TJ with the sauce.
SPEAKER_05And my name is Ashley, aka Ashley Great.
SPEAKER_01And we will see you guys next week.
SPEAKER_05Bye.
SPEAKER_01Love y'all.
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